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From Media Bias to Massive Tech Censorship, Brent Bozell Exposes the Left’s Misdeeds


From Media Bias to Massive Tech Censorship, Brent Bozell Exposes the Left’s Misdeeds

Media bias and dishonest journalism right this moment appear worse than ever. Hollywood is embracing increasingly express content material, and even pushing it on our youngsters. And conservatives can’t catch a break with Massive Tech, which has resorted to censoring and suppressing content material at an alarming fee.

For 35 years, Brent Bozell has taken on the elites in media, Hollywood, and Massive Tech. He’s constructed the Media Research Center right into a powerhouse, created the Parents Television Council, aided grassroots activists with ForAmerica, and is now championing the First Modification with the Free Speech Alliance.

Bozell joins “The Every day Sign Podcast” to speak in regards to the media, Massive Tech, and his new guide “Stops Along the Way: A Catholic Soul, a Conservative Heart, an Irish Temper, and a Love of Life.” Watch, pay attention, or learn a flippantly edited transcript under.

Bluey: You and I first met 20 years in the past once I was a reporter for Thanks for taking an opportunity on me again then. It was a outstanding expertise, and actually my introduction to the conservative motion. It’s arduous to fathom, although, how a lot has modified in these previous twenty years, significantly with the media panorama. As you survey the best way issues are right this moment, what are your observations, what alarms you, what do you suppose our viewers must know in regards to the media?

Bozell: The very first thing they should know is one thing about Rob Bluey. I don’t know why—effectively, you’re modest and also you’re humble, however you don’t go round telling individuals a singular accomplishment.

When the [Rathergate] story got here out on CBS that mentioned that George Bush had been doing nefarious issues when he was within the Nationwide Guard, and … that being a narrative designed to derail his presidential reelection bid. …

It seems that the paperwork had been false, and it was not a typewritten report, because it ought to have been in that 12 months. It was in actual fact a pc printout. And it was Rob Bluey who got here out with the very first printed report exposing that.

And Rush Limbaugh went everywhere in the air, Sean Hannity went everywhere in the air. All people was on it that evening. The subsequent day, everyone began peeling away from CBS. And in the end, the producer misplaced her job and Dan Quite misplaced his, as he ought to have.

But it surely was you, you had the very first printed report on that. So, I begin by commending you.

Bluey: Thanks, Brent.

Bozell: To your query, what’s occurred? Somebody contacted me yesterday and identified that within the guide we wrote about 10, 15 years in the past, Tim Graham and I predicted this. We predicted the approaching meltdown of the media.

And I warned about it as a result of I mentioned, and Limbaugh and I talked about this, as a result of I advised Rush, “Be careful, they’re going to do that. They’re going to return after you.” That the media had been like cornered rats. We had so uncovered them, and so peeled off the veneer of supposed objectivity, that they weren’t going to take it. They had been going to do what cornered rats do, they had been going to go for the jugular, and right here you go.

The factor we didn’t predict, Rob, was simply how far to the left the Democratic Get together would go. And they’re the tipping level of it, they’re the tip of the spear of this uber-radicalism. We didn’t see that coming.

So, that’s the place they’re right this moment. It makes you rue the nice previous days of Dan Quite and Tom Brokaw. That’s how unhealthy they’ve change into.

Bluey: Take us again to 1987. It appeared totally different then. And one of many largest modifications that I’ve noticed, and you’ve got been a part of this, is the expansion of conservative media. Beginning with in 1998, one of many first digital-only conservative platforms. However right this moment, for those who’re popping out of faculty as a conservative journalist, you’ve so many choices that you would be able to go to.

Bozell: So, going again to 1987, what did we’ve? You had ABC, NBC, CBS. There was this upstart, CNN, but it surely nonetheless simply wasn’t a blip on the scene. You had The Washington Publish, you had The New York Instances, the LA Instances, you had AP, you had UPI. The magazines had been Time, Newsweek, U.S. Enterprise, World Report.

What did each single one have in frequent? Each single one was left wing. There wasn’t a single conservative outlet on the market.

In case you wished to inform your story, needed to do it, you could possibly do it one among 3 ways, 4 methods. You could possibly give a narrative to Human Occasions, with a circulation of about 35,000 that got here out as soon as per week. So by the point they printed it, the story was come and gone.

You could possibly give it to Nationwide Evaluation, which had a much bigger viewers, possibly 65,000, but it surely printed as soon as each two weeks. So … the story was method gone.

The third one was Paul Harvey, who would do a commentary from Chicago, and he was unbelievable. However there was simply Paul Harvey by himself.

The fourth one, I suppose, is you could possibly roll up a chunk of paper and put it in a bottle, and throw it within the ocean, and hope that it made its method. Otherwise you did unsolicited mail. …

It’s sort of freaky to suppose, again then, how may a conservative have been elected to something after we had no type of communication?

So Rush Limbaugh, up till the purpose he died, gave us credit score for his present, which is foolish. Rush Limbaugh, I feel, will get 100% credit score for his present.

However that is what he meant, and that is the place he was proper. I used to be requested after we began the group by a possible donor—there have been three of us assembly on this previous beat-up townhouse, and we had seven staff. We had two desks, however we did have seven telephones, and we had a black and white TV and a rented laptop. And she or he mentioned, “Who do you suppose you’re?” Good query. We had been going up in opposition to a multibillion-dollar business.

And I prompt that there have been two causes she wanted to assist us. One was as a result of the media performed a job with everyone and each problem. And as long as our motion had prime steak concepts, but it surely went by way of the grinder and got here out uncooked sewage on the opposite finish to the American individuals, we weren’t going to win the general public coverage debate. So, we needed to do one thing about that.

Secondly, that I consider that the media had an Achilles’ Heel, and that was credibility. If we may get the American individuals to know what the media had been doing, then if we consider in market economics, we’d create a possibility for others.

At the moment after we began, Rob, 75% of the American individuals believed the media had been goal. And by the best way, objectivity doesn’t exist, however they believed it.

So Rush pointed to that, that as a result of we had been in a position to expose the media, there was a market demand for an alternative choice to Dan Quite. And I used to tease him that, “Each evening you must get in your knees and pray to Peter Jennings, to the ghost of Peter Jennings, for thanking him for getting you a job.”

However we helped create an environment. However then others took over, and the Rob Blueys took over, and the Rush Limbaughs took over. And it’s been great from that standpoint.

Bluey: How can conservatives right this moment maintain the media accountable? And the place ought to they go to get truthful info?

Bozell: OK, let’s begin with the latter first. I don’t suppose there’s one single place to go. I fear a lot about our bifurcated society right this moment. With social media and the web and Google, there’s extra info at our fingertips than at any time in human historical past. All it’s important to do is ask a query … with one click on of Google, and there’s your reply.

However the paradox is that we are actually dumber than ever, as a result of we don’t search new info. We merely search for Cliffs Notes of Cliffs Notes. We go on Google, we press the very first thing, we learn the primary paragraph, increase, we’re smart. No, we’re not. That’s all we all know.

And the issue on that rating is that we’re dumbed down, we instinctively, conservatives will instinctively go to Fox. A liberal will instinctively go to MSNBC. And I feel that the place conservatives are involved, try this, however then go to the BBC, go to CNN. Go to enemy occupied territory, discover out what the opposite facet believes and what the opposite facet is saying.

Each every so often, I like BBC, as left wing as they’re—and they’re. However they do cowl extra information than anyone stateside. And I do advocate go to these sort of websites, get a deeper understanding of the information, as an alternative of the meatball surgical procedure forensic information. Now we have to go deeper.

So, what do you do about media bias? Everybody wants to show them of their human interplay always, and it may be performed. In case you’re on Fb, you’ve a number of individuals that you simply join with. Bear in mind, most individuals that you simply join with don’t really feel the best way you do in regards to the world, however they respect your opinion on the world.

There’s a examine that was performed that confirmed that in case you are an American company and also you promote on Fb, you’ve a few 14% believability fee. Solely 14% consider in that Ford truck. The remainder actually don’t care, don’t concentrate. In case you put that very same business on Fb, the believability goes as much as 76%. Why? As a result of it’s friends sharing info.

If I ship you that—if it’s simply on the market, no. But when Brent Bozell sends it to a cousin who could also be a left-winger, he’s my cousin, and … he might not agree, however he’s going to concentrate to it.

So social media is an effective way, for those who’re not censored, which is one other large downside, possibly a much bigger downside, however you attempt to get that story out. So we’ve to be storytellers, all of us. When the media are distorting issues—have a look at this transgenderism problem, look what they’re doing to it—speak about it, don’t be afraid, speak about it. Bear in mind always, overwhelmingly, the American individuals on virtually nearly each single problem are with us.

Bluey: Thanks for mentioning the significance of social media. You and I’ve sat in conferences with Mark Zuckerberg and we’ve been sturdy advocates without cost expression and free speech on these platforms. I feel we’ve seen how conservatives have been in a position to develop their attain on account of social media. Nevertheless, evidently the social media firms have determined that their embrace of free speech is now secondary to their want to manage the narrative, to manage and censor and suppress conservative voices. What was the turning level for Massive Tech once they turned in opposition to us as conservatives?

Bozell: I feel I do know when it was. The final 4 presidential elections have been determined by social media. That’s the ability of social media. Barack Obama used Fb to nice success in 2008. In 2012, he doubled down, spent much more sources on Fb, on reelection.

2016, Donald Trump gained the presidential election utilizing Twitter. And that was the purpose the place they mentioned in the very best Roberto Duran voice, “No mas.” They weren’t going to permit him to win reelection. And that’s if you noticed the censorship start.

The important thing level being, Rob, for those who can censor the president of the USA, you may censor anyone. … He was formally censored. What individuals don’t notice is earlier than being formally censored, he’d been censored 265 instances. And we appeared to see what number of instances Joe Biden was censored in that point interval, not as soon as.

So, what’s it that makes them suppose that they’ll do that? And Rob, that is key. Individuals have to know, they consider their censorship is a virtuous factor. These are firms that don’t see themselves as American, they name themselves members of the worldwide neighborhood always.

So, what does this world neighborhood consider in? They consider in a European type of socialism. On this type of socialism, you place advantage first, freedom second. In our society, we’ve the Structure first after which advantage of the appliance of it, second. They see it simply the opposite method round. They see advantage higher, extra vital than freedom.

What’s advantage? Advantage to them is every part we’re in opposition to. They see it as a virtuous factor. The Structure to them is irrelevant, it doesn’t exist. Therefore, banning weapons is an effective factor as a result of they don’t consider within the Second Modification. And extra importantly, Rob, free speech. Censorship is an effective factor of their minds as a result of they don’t consider within the First Modification. And that’s the key sauce right here.

So, you’ve obtained a complete business, … it’s extra highly effective, Rob, than any company business within the historical past of man. Take into consideration the robber barons, take into consideration the railroads, all that stuff, that’s tiddlywinks in comparison with the ability of Silicon Valley. Three firms are sitting on a trillion {dollars} of money. The place’s the market competitors? Apple needs one thing, it eats it. You don’t eat an Apple, Apple eats you. They’re that large, you may’t compete in opposition to them.

Bluey: Let’s speak about one of many real-life penalties of that. So, one of the vital egregious instances of censorship got here one other October shock, if you’ll, forward of the 2020 election. The New York Publish has a major scoop on Hunter Biden, and the corruption, and the laptop computer, and every part that was related to that. Twitter and Fb and different platforms instantly determined that the story wanted to be suppressed. Their audiences couldn’t couldn’t see it. … And you’ve got polling to counsel that this might have influenced the result of the election.

Bozell: It completely did.

Bluey: So, what’s your take? In current days, The New York Instances and different information retailers have come out and now acknowledge that it’s true. Are you shocked by this acknowledgement? And what are your normal ideas on the Hunter Biden story at this level?

Bozell: OK, so, the Hunter Biden story comes up. … You simply requested the apparent, if this had been Don Jr. with a laptop computer, what would the media do? If in there, they’re speaking about all these offers, and he’s performed cocaine, and he talks about chopping a cope with the Chinese language authorities, with the communists, they usually’re going to cover 10% for “The large man”—and if this had been Don Jr., there would have been no query who “the massive man” was.

Properly, you’ve all of this come out. And right here’s the important thing, Rob, nobody within the Biden marketing campaign ever denied it. Nobody within the Biden household ever mentioned this wasn’t true. That tells you every part you must know.

So, what was the media’s response? What was social media’s response? Fb, these individuals do all this underhanded stuff they usually get caught on a regular basis. On this case, Fb introduced they had been suppressing it. Twitter simply shut down the account for the New York Publish after which began shutting down individuals who would speak in regards to the story, so that they suppressed it. The media had nothing to say. I feel there was seconds that they utilized to it, and that was it.

So, what was the real-world consequence of this? We took a survey after the elections. It was an interesting and disturbing survey. It was 1,750 individuals, so about as correct as a ballot as you may take. We went into seven battleground states—Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan. These had been the battleground states. We put a collection of inquiries to Biden’s voters. “Do you know?” After which we requested them, … to those that didn’t know, “Had you identified, would you’ve voted for Biden?”

Rob, it was scary. On each single problem, it was 35%, 45%, 50.5% of Biden’s voters had no concept that America had change into power unbiased, 49% had no concept that Trump had been nominated for 3 Pulitzer Prizes.

In each case, we then took the 4%, regardless of the quantity could be of p.c who mentioned they wouldn’t have voted for Biden, we put it throughout these states. And Trump over and again and again gained six of the seven states, 295 votes.

Then we obtained to Hunter Biden. We requested, “Do you know about Hunter Biden?” Now, each conservative is aware of every part about Hunter Biden. We requested Biden’s voters. Rob, I feel it’s 47%, thereabouts, of Biden’s voters had by no means heard of Hunter Biden.

In case you go to CBS, it was by no means reported. In case you go on Fb, it wasn’t allowed. So, that was suppressed. Nearly 50% of Biden’s voters had by no means heard about it.

So then we mentioned, “That is the story.” Not passing judgment, “That is the story. Would you’ve voted for Biden had you identified?” 9.4%, virtually 10% of Biden’s voters within the swing states mentioned they wouldn’t have voted for him.

We then put that 9.4% throughout each state, the seven states. Once more—Nevada, Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. Donald Trump would have gained with ease, each single state, 311 electoral votes, a landslide. That’s what was the consequence of censoring a narrative.

And so, The New York Instances comes out a 12 months and a half later. Properly, whoop-de-do, thanks a lot, New York Instances.

And but, even when the Grey Girl, that font of knowledge the place the remainder of the media are involved, comes out and says it’s true—and there’s some unbelievable scandal right here that could be a thousand instances worse than Watergate, a thousand instances worse than anything you’ve seen. … You’ve obtained the son piggybacking on Air Power Two rides and making billion greenback offers with the Communist Chinese language, with 10% of it going to “the massive man.”

The final we checked, as of a number of days in the past, it’s been 265 days since ABC, NBC, or CBS have talked about the phrases Hunter Biden. They nonetheless aren’t masking it.

Bluey: That’s why it’s so crucial, the work that you simply do—not solely on the Media Analysis Middle, however the Free Speech Alliance—to carry these points to the forefront.

Brent, one final query for you earlier than we wrap, you’ve written a number of books over the a long time, all of which have actually uncovered media bias and introduced the highlight on points that too typically don’t get the eye they deserve. However your most up-to-date guide is sort of totally different. It’s referred to as “Stops Along the Way: A Catholic Soul, a Conservative Heart, an Irish Temper, and a Love of Life.” It’s a private story about your personal life. Inform us what impressed you to jot down this most up-to-date guide.

Bozell: Properly, I had some good tales to inform, first. However they had been totally different tales. And it’s not a memoir, it’s not my autobiography. It’s a collection of true tales. However what I’m hoping to do is to take the reader again, not simply to the nice previous days, however to a unprecedented world of prospects.

I feel, Rob, we’re not dreamers anymore. We’re so involved with the right here and now, as we needs to be, as a result of I feel this nation may be very a lot teeter-tottering, and I feel we’re very a lot at an existential second, however but we must be dreamers, too. We’d like to consider the world of prospects. And I take you to a world of prospects.

Individuals have learn it, and I can not inform you what number of feedback I’ve gotten again. Individuals are writing from everywhere in the nation, both telling their story or telling one thing that affected them.

The second a part of the guide’s extra political, telling tales there. And I do inform a narrative, for instance, of an individual who I think about 99 out of 100 conservatives have by no means heard of. And but with out him, arguably there would have been no Reagan revolution, and also you’ve by no means heard the identify. And I labored for the man.

How many individuals know the story of John T. Terry Dolan? I inform that story. And if you learn the story, and it ends tragically and fantastically, however if you learn that story, you’re going to say to your self, for those who’re a conservative, “OMG, I had no concept.” True tales.

Bluey: Brent, thanks a lot for sending me a duplicate of the guide. I do recognize it. We’ll make sure to depart a hyperlink within the transcript in addition to the present notes for right this moment’s episode. Thanks for what you’ve been doing, not solely as a conservative chief, however exposing what’s happening in Massive Tech and the media. We’re actually grateful for it and stay up for holding in contact.

Bozell: Rob, thanks for every part you’re doing.

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